Do I need a bottom entry or side entry toilet fill valve?
How to tell which entry your cistern has, why the two are not interchangeable without changing the plumbing, and what else to check before buying a replacement.
- Difficulty
- beginner
- Time
- 15 min
- Read
- 4 min
Short answer
Look at where the supply pipe enters the cistern. Through the base is bottom entry; through the side wall near the top is side entry. The valve has to match the hole you have — the other hole does not exist. Bottom entry is quieter and is the modern default; side entry survives in older and concealed cisterns.
Fill valves are cheap and near-universal within their type, so the only real decision is which type you need — and that is determined entirely by where the hole in your cistern is, not by preference. Getting it wrong means an unusable part and a trip back to the shop, so the check takes two minutes and is worth doing before ordering.
Step by step
- Look at where the supply pipe arrives.Trace the small pipe from the isolating valve. If it turns upwards and disappears into the underside of the cistern, you have a bottom entry valve. If it runs up the wall and into the side of the cistern near the top, you have side entry. That is the whole decision.
- Check whether the cistern actually has both holes.Some cisterns are moulded or drilled with both a base hole and a side hole, with one blanked off. If yours has a spare blanked hole, you have the option to change type — but you also have to move the supply pipe, which turns a fifteen-minute job into a plumbing job.
- Measure the tail length available.The valve's threaded tail has to pass through the cistern wall or base and take a backnut, with room for the supply connection below or beside it. In a tight concealed cistern or a close-coupled installation with a low pan, there may be very little room. Measure before buying.
- Check the internal height.The valve has to fit under the lid with its float able to rise fully. Most modern valves are adjustable in height, and short-body versions exist for shallow cisterns. If the cistern is slimline or concealed, look specifically for a compact valve.
- Match the connection size.UK toilet supplies are almost always half-inch BSP. Check whether the existing connection is a compression fitting, a flexible tap connector or a push-fit, and buy accordingly — a flexible connector makes fitting much easier in a tight space.
- Prefer a bottom entry valve where you have the choice.Bottom entry valves discharge below the water line, which makes them significantly quieter than a side entry valve dropping water from above. In a bathroom next to a bedroom this is a real difference.
- Buy a valve with a serviceable filter.The single most common fill valve fault is a blocked inlet filter, and a valve you can take the head off and rinse without draining anything is worth a little more. Check the description says the filter is accessible.
- Consider the water level adjustment method.Modern valves adjust by a screw or a sliding clip on the float stem, which is precise and holds its setting. Older ballvalve designs adjust by bending an arm, which is crude and drifts. If you are replacing an old ballvalve, this alone is worth the change.
Common mistakes
- Ordering by the picture on the box rather than checking where the pipe enters — Bottom and side entry valves look broadly similar in a photograph and are not interchangeable without moving the supply.
- Buying a full-height valve for a concealed cistern — There is often no room under the lid or the access panel, and the valve cannot be adjusted once fitted.
- Reusing the old backnut and washer on a new valve — The washers supplied with the new valve are matched to it. Old ones have taken a set and are the usual reason a new valve weeps at the base.
Alternatives
- Delayed-action fill valve: Waits until the flush valve has closed before starting to fill. Slightly quieter overall and avoids the fill fighting the flush on some cisterns. Uncommon and worth having if it is offered.
- Compact or short-body valve: For slimline, concealed and low-level cisterns where a standard valve will not fit under the lid or clear the flush valve.
- Complete inlet and outlet kit: Where the flush valve is also worn, a matched pair replaces everything internal in one go and often costs little more than the two parts separately.
Questions people ask
Can I convert a side entry cistern to bottom entry?
Only if the cistern has a base hole, blanked or otherwise. If it does not, you cannot drill one reliably in vitreous china and should not try.
Are fill valves universal?
Within their type, largely yes for standard cisterns — they are adjustable for height and water level. Concealed and designer cisterns often need a specific part, so check before assuming.
Why is my new fill valve noisier than the old one?
Usually because it is a side entry valve dropping water from above the water line, or because the isolating valve is throttled and the water is jetting through a restriction. Try opening the isolating valve fully.