Is Postcrete as strong as mixed concrete?
What fast-setting post mix actually is, where it is genuinely the better choice, and the two jobs it should not be used for.
- Difficulty
- beginner
- Time
- 8 min
- Read
- 4 min
Short answer
Fast-setting post mix reaches a usable strength in minutes and a strength comparable to ordinary domestic concrete within a day or so, so for a post it is not weaker in any way that matters. It costs several times as much per hole, gives you no working time, and it is the wrong product for a slab, a footing or anything you need to place and finish.
The comparison people make is the wrong one. Post mix is not competing with concrete on ultimate strength — a fence post is not a highly loaded thing and both materials are comfortably strong enough. It is competing on labour, on time, and on how much of a Saturday you would like to spend mixing.
Step by step
- Use post mix where speed and simplicity are the point.A few posts, a single replacement, working alone, no mixer, no water on site beyond a can. The saving in effort is enormous and the cost difference over a handful of posts is small.
- Use mixed concrete for a long run.A whole fence line, a set of gate posts and a run of intermediate posts. Once you are past a handful of holes the price gap dominates, and if you are hiring a mixer anyway the marginal cost of another hole is almost nothing.
- Follow the water-first instruction.Most fast-setting post mixes want the hole part-filled with water and the powder poured in afterwards, not the other way round. Getting this backwards is the commonest reason for a soft or uneven set.
- Brace the post before adding anything.Post mix gives you a couple of minutes and no more. Have the post plumbed and braced in both directions before the bag is opened, because there is no adjusting it afterwards.
- Never use post mix for a slab or a footing.It is designed for a confined hole with a post in it. You cannot place, compact, screed and finish something that sets in minutes, and it is not batched or specified for structural concrete.
- Slope the top away from the post.Whatever you set it in, the top surface must fall away from the timber so that water runs off rather than sitting against it. A flat or dished top around a timber post is what rots it at ground level.
- Consider drainage under the post.A post set in a sealed concrete cup stands in whatever water gets in. Gravel in the base of the hole lets that water away, and it makes a substantial difference to how long a timber post lasts.
- Give gates and heavy posts more than the standard treatment.A gate post takes a large and constantly changing load. It wants a deeper, wider hole and more concrete than a fence post, and it should be left much longer before the gate is hung on it.
Alternatives
- Fast-setting post mix (Postcrete and equivalents): Poured dry into the hole with water added, no mixing. Goes off in minutes, holds a post within about a quarter of an hour, and takes load the same day. Expensive per hole. Ideal for a handful of posts, a repair, or working alone with no mixer.
- Hand-mixed or mixer concrete: Far cheaper per hole, and once you are setting more than a few posts the cost gap becomes the deciding factor. Needs bracing to hold each post while it sets, and the posts cannot be loaded for a day or more.
- Metal post spikes or bolt-down shoes: No concrete at all. Quick, reversible, and fine for a light fence in firm ground. Considerably less rigid than concrete and prone to working loose in soft or wet ground or on an exposed windy boundary.
- Compacted gravel or a dry mix: Post set in well-compacted angular gravel, or a semi-dry sand and cement that takes moisture from the ground. Both drain freely, which extends the life of a timber post considerably compared with a post sitting in a concrete cup.
Questions people ask
How strong is postcrete compared to concrete?
Manufacturers quote strengths in the same range as ordinary domestic concrete once fully set. For a fence post that is far more than enough, and it is not the reason to choose between them.
How long before I can hang a fence panel?
Post mix normally holds the post within minutes and takes light load the same day; the bag gives the figure. For a gate, wait considerably longer regardless of the product, because the load is much greater and constant.
Can I use postcrete for a shed base?
No. It sets far too fast to place, compact and finish, and it is not the right product for a slab. Use a concrete mix.
Is it worth it for a whole fence?
Rarely, on cost. For twenty posts the premium is substantial and a mixer plus ballast is much cheaper. For three posts, the premium is trivial against half a day's mixing.